tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post6853429371016729278..comments2023-09-29T06:09:21.089-04:00Comments on Ask a Manager: using jealousy to push a company to make an offerAsk a Managerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05281942480230532899noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-92233095109334574972009-07-02T10:19:11.815-04:002009-07-02T10:19:11.815-04:00"I would be very hesitant to hire a candidate..."I would be very hesitant to hire a candidate who just accepted a different position, as her willingness to screw over that employer would be a huge negative."<br /><br />I wish more employers thought as you. I've had interviewers literally tell me I needed to do just that and drop previous commitments to meet their expectations. I mean, I'd understand if it wee something along the lines of "we were hoping for someone who could start right away. Can you work out other arrangements with the employer you're leaving." But that is NOT what I was getting. I even had one interviewer ask me to not only quit without notice but to (illegally) attempt to bring clients from my previous position with me. Remind me to open my own business.TheLabRathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12519299790907271971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-43207407529300929412009-07-01T21:38:30.729-04:002009-07-01T21:38:30.729-04:00J.T., would you really reject an otherwise awesome...J.T., would you really reject an otherwise awesome candidate for not sending a thank-you note? I notice who does and doesn't send a thank-you note and it becomes part of my overall impression, but I've never made the decision solely on that. So that's interesting if others do. <br /><br />Charles, I suspect your fear of appearing stalkerish is probably unwarranted -- stalkerish is calling constantly, following up earlier than when they told you to, etc. <a href="http://askamanager.blogspot.com/2008/04/enthusiasm-when-job-searching.html" rel="nofollow">This post</a> might be helpful.<br /><br />Joselle, amen to "It's not just about getting a company to pick you. You pick them, too."Ask a Managerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05281942480230532899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-31471672199007209402009-07-01T12:07:07.014-04:002009-07-01T12:07:07.014-04:00If it feels better to follow-up one more time usin...If it feels better to follow-up one more time using the timeline method suggested by AAM, go for it. Regardless of whether that works or not, continue on your job search. There are definitely other jobs out there that you'll really want and will actually get. <br /><br />Ask yourself, do you want to work for a company that you have to chase? Maybe you do and that's okay. But think about what you want and if they will be able to give that to you. This is your job search, too. It's not just about getting a company to pick you. You pick them, too.Josellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15446698567577764380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-87471250643834714062009-07-01T09:46:27.091-04:002009-07-01T09:46:27.091-04:00AAM - yea, great outline, except on my PC the hier...AAM - yea, great outline, except on my PC the hierarchy of the outline does not indent like it should ;)<br /><br />As far as the advice; I agree, I would at this point start moving on. While I think it is possible for them to still consider you I wouldn't hold my breath.<br /><br />Nor would I do any more follow-up. As a job seeker myself I am always afraid of crossing that line from "follow-up" to "stalking." <br /><br />I'm not quite sure where it is so I err on the side of caution.<br /><br />I send a thank you to all parties that I interviewed with; and then a follow up email a week or so later to the HR contact. Should I be doing more? Such as what J.T. suggests - send an email linking to an interesting article? Is this what folks have to do to be taken as a serious and interested candidate? Isn't it "over the top"?<br /><br />Boy, I'd really love to know if my not being "pro-active" enough is hurting my chances at landing a job.Charleshttp://home.earthlink.net/~nooriginalthought/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-58657611785124209462009-07-01T08:22:13.576-04:002009-07-01T08:22:13.576-04:00I'm with Ask A Manager on who to send the than...I'm with Ask A Manager on who to send the thank you note to - it's a clear and simple sign of respect to send a thank you to everyone you interview, especially your potential manager.<br /><br />While Ask A Manager is being more optimistic, I'm going to say that I think not sending the note did potentially cost you the job. To not send the thank you to the person that is ultimately going to decide to hire you, while a judgment error on your part, is most likely being seen as someone who doesn't understand the basics of professional follow through. If this hiring manager is a stickler for things like that, then he most likely has decided you would show more of the same on-the-job.<br /><br />I'd focus on your new opportunity, learn from the mistake, and not push the media company too hard. You can't control the outcome at this point, especially if you try to strong-arm them by saying you've got another offer. Wait to hear from them. <br /><br />Perhaps, in a week or so, you could send the hiring manager an e-mail with a link to an article you found interesting and relevant to the conversations you shared in your interview. This would be a way to provide him value and show your respect. It might also help to build the relationship.<br /><br />I hope it works out!<br /><br />JTJ.T. O'Donnellhttp://www.careerealism.comnoreply@blogger.com