tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post3584388947945577777..comments2023-09-29T06:09:21.089-04:00Comments on Ask a Manager: offer changed once I was on the jobAsk a Managerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05281942480230532899noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-7609435833560507042009-10-16T02:29:05.662-04:002009-10-16T02:29:05.662-04:00Great news, everyone--I did go to bat and win, sor...Great news, everyone--I did go to bat and win, sort of, securing housing for myself. As AAM guessed, my boss has turned out to be an unpleasant person to work for, and someone I do not trust. I've continued the job search and found another position that is a fantastic fit for me--hurrah! The new employer would be willing to wait until my 10-month contract with my current employer is up... I'm a bit hung up on honoring my commitments, and would like to remain through the end of my contract if possible. I don't know if I'm being committed or a glutton for punishment.buscar siemprehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11401989628693186689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-71389879453403939932009-08-27T01:08:18.473-04:002009-08-27T01:08:18.473-04:00Jamieson: I think she's ethically entitled to ...Jamieson: I think she's ethically entitled to leave without notice; after all, they've reneged on an agreement. But I think she's got to weigh all the factors and figure out how much she wants the job/what she can get from it versus how much of an issue this is for her.Ask a Managerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05281942480230532899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-40047244148863827622009-08-26T21:17:39.003-04:002009-08-26T21:17:39.003-04:00AAM -- what do you think about the advice to leave...AAM -- what do you think about the advice to leave with no notice?Jamiesonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-73391399621978934832009-08-26T19:12:51.235-04:002009-08-26T19:12:51.235-04:00I think the writer who was lied to should use caut...I think the writer who was lied to should use caution with where to go from here. Yes, you could go straight to HR and try and burn your new boss, but that really could sour your relationship. This could make it difficult to find another job, especially in today's job market.<br /><br />I do think it was wrong for the manager to either lie about the housing arrangement or make an offer that was out of his league. If the job search world was in better shape, I would say move back home with your parents and get another job. Considering the writer looked for 2 years to find a job in his/her field, I would caution him/her away from doing something he/she might ultimately regret. Then, it depends upon how bad the situation is. <br /><br />Excluding the housing offer gone bad, do you like working there? Have you learned anything on the job that you can use to beef up your resume? Do you otherwise have a good relationship with your manager? Can this job lead to a better job at another company?<br /><br />I definitely think the writer should seek other employment, but he/she should not leave until that other job has been found. It is easier to get a job when you have one than it is when you are unemployed. It sounds foolish, but I've found that to be true. Also, you don't want other employers to think that you're going to leave them anytime something goes wrong. You don't want to explain why you left your employer so soon during a job interview either. Although you are justified to leave, I feel it would leave a lasting negative impression on a hiring manager's mind, which might scare them away given so many other applicants in the pool.<br /><br />I know that my advice sounds wimpy in a way. I do think you should use your current employer as much as possible to step into something else. I don't think quitting, unless the living expenses are bankrupting you, is a good idea in today's market. If the employer is going to use you, then use your employer for all you can get such as experience, training, references, and strong resume bullets.Susannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-26827009550816967052009-08-26T14:56:45.275-04:002009-08-26T14:56:45.275-04:00I know how you feel. I once accepted a job and th...I know how you feel. I once accepted a job and then when I came on board I was actually put on a job that was in a completely different function than what I had interviewed for. There is little we can do in these situations. Thankfully, it's just 10 months. Get the experience and move onto the real job of your dreams.. one that pays fairly and is permanent, and in the field you want.Vidhyahttp://www.starterchef.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-19337448845566862712009-08-26T14:03:30.363-04:002009-08-26T14:03:30.363-04:00Anonymous @ 1:23 is entirely correct about verbal ...Anonymous @ 1:23 is entirely correct about verbal offers. My fear is that if the OP pushes the issue, and his contract has no early termination penalty, he will be early terminated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-61705096457662540502009-08-26T13:23:09.492-04:002009-08-26T13:23:09.492-04:00A verbal agreement is just as binding as a written...A verbal agreement is just as binding as a written agreement, just more difficult to prove.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-30144727286927729892009-08-26T13:21:24.797-04:002009-08-26T13:21:24.797-04:00Go directly to HR, do not pass Go, do not tell the...Go directly to HR, do not pass Go, do not tell the manager.<br /><br />Even if you were supposed to be a regular employee instead of a 10-month contractor, you do not want to work for a person like that any longer than you have to.<br /><br />Turn the tables - do what you can to get the housing offer honored and also start looking for another job immediately (as well as backup housing, which sounds like it's your parents?).<br /><br />When you find something else, give them two weeks' notice if the housing offer was honored - if it wasn't, you don't owe them any advance notice at all...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-61100819233605604042009-08-26T13:05:04.035-04:002009-08-26T13:05:04.035-04:00I don't necessarily think the employer was bei...I don't necessarily think the employer was being cynical here, perhaps the manager really did exceed his authority and is now put in an awkward position by HR/his superiors. <br /><br />I've seen this happen before, typically with inexperienced managers who don't stand up for their employees like good managers should.<br /><br />It's time for you to go over his head. He might be unwilling to confront HR or his superiors but as the affected individual you certainly have a right to raise the issue with them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-60173101278933595732009-08-26T11:03:04.105-04:002009-08-26T11:03:04.105-04:00I do not understand; how did the OP move without a...I do not understand; how did the OP move <b>without</b> a place to stay? Is the OP now staying at a hotel or something?<br /><br />If a company is going to provide me with housing as part of the offer, would I be out-of-line to request to see it first?<br /><br />This doesn't make any sense to me.Charleshttp://home.earthlink.net/~nooriginalthought/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-89201632188686909992009-08-26T11:00:13.075-04:002009-08-26T11:00:13.075-04:00If your story is correct then start looking for an...If your story is correct then start looking for another position. I wouldn't fight it and waste the energy. Either the supervisor outright lied to you and knows that management cannot/will not make it right, or the company tacitly supports supports such tactics (and lied to you as an institution).<br /><br />I think you will find more unsavory experiences as you continue there. I would continue to work and give no more than one weeks notice when you find a new position.The Engineernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-69097490176584807392009-08-26T10:02:40.998-04:002009-08-26T10:02:40.998-04:00If this offer to relocate landed you here in Calif...If this offer to relocate landed you here in California, you have my condolences. In writing or not, with our housing prices here, an employer should be metaphorically flogged for even implying that something like this was part of the package and not following through.TheLabRathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12519299790907271971noreply@blogger.com