tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post7078240859642822867..comments2023-09-29T06:09:21.089-04:00Comments on Ask a Manager: company won't respond - could it be discrimination?Ask a Managerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05281942480230532899noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-2334194416472710152010-09-17T09:46:42.800-04:002010-09-17T09:46:42.800-04:00Personally, I’m tired of applicants assuming that ...Personally, I’m tired of applicants assuming that since they submitted a resume and filled out an application they are entitled to an interview (or a job as I’ve seen recently). <br /><br />For low-pay, low-education positions there are often hundreds of individuals who apply, most of which are qualified or over-qualified. Just because you were not contacted by the company for an interview does not necessarily mean that you are not qualified or that you are being discriminated against, or even that there might be something wrong with your resume or cover letter. Everything might be perfect and you might be a perfect fit, unfortunately that still doesn’t mean that you’re even going to be considered for the position if there are 200 other equally qualified applicants.<br /><br />This is an outrageously competitive market right now, supply is vastly outpacing demand for jobs, there are tons of experienced, qualified, and able individuals who cannot even get a call back because of the sheer volume of people unemployed and/or looking for work.<br /><br />It sucks, the economy sucks, the unemployment rate sucks, and wanting to work and not being able to find a job sucks. Unfortunately that’s the environment we are in right now in many cities. All you can do is make sure your cover letter and resume is spot on, and that they fit the job you are applying for, and just keep applying. Not getting a call back or an interview for a position doesn’t necessarily mean anything anymore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-13787536585002674692010-09-15T19:53:06.964-04:002010-09-15T19:53:06.964-04:00I'm not sure if there is cause to rule in disc...I'm not sure if there is cause to rule in discrimination, but I also don't believe there is cause to rule it out either. I do agree that you should make sure your resume and cover letter flawless before applying for this, or any other, job. However, if this has been done and there still seems to be an issue with getting a call back and/or interview, even after showing interest in the job by calling and going in person to check on the status of your application, I believe the idea of calling the upper level management may be worth warranting. <br /><br />There may be a decreased chance of you getting hired by this particular company if you do make this call, but there may be added benefits to this also, such as valuable feedback as to what is the real reason for no call backs or alerting the upper level management of discriminatory practices that they don't know about at this location. There is a high risk to benefit ratio in play on something like this, but if it's something that you're really interested in I think it's worth finding out the true reason instead of speculating.Byron J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-91779665828677041842010-09-15T18:18:50.233-04:002010-09-15T18:18:50.233-04:00Mike-The reason why people say the OP may be autom...Mike-The reason why people say the OP may be automatically assuming is because that is the single and only reason he suggested is the cause. If he said, "could it be discrimination, my resume, my qualifications, or just a overly competitve mark?" then the assumption that the OP is assuming it's discrimination is diluted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-39718488446035511122010-09-15T10:54:29.212-04:002010-09-15T10:54:29.212-04:00We have no idea and really no way of finding out w...We have no idea and really no way of finding out what the reason is for the writter to not be getting an interview. However, I know from my experience as a hiring manager, friends who are hiring, friends who are looking for jobs and the other responses on this blog there are too many possibilities to say it is discrimination. <br /><br />Does the job ad mention anything about how to apply and say anyting about no calls? If the ad specifically says no calls and you are calling that in most cases is not going to help you. While the though is to set yourself apart and get them to notice your resume, not the best way. You could be leaving an impression of not being able to follow directions, being desperate and wanting any job - not that job in particular and now being a pest to someone who is likely very busy. In this market there are so many people responding and you don't know what they are looking for and those intangible qualities as well. <br /><br />As for multiple ad posts,there are also too many reasons to determine what that is about. <br /><br />Do what you can to set yourself apart from others in your cover letter and in your resume. Make sure both are changed for each position being applied for, that they address any specific requirments or directions posted in the ads. I see a lot of really bad cover letters and resumes. Right or wrong as a first impression that can set one candidate apart from another.<br /><br />Best wishes in finding a job. It is very difficult right now for a lot of people. Keep up the search and maybe try a different approach to your cover letter, resume and search tactics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-66982420561141984592010-09-15T10:26:09.824-04:002010-09-15T10:26:09.824-04:00I interviewed with a medical device company with n...I interviewed with a medical device company with numerous openings - position was a supervisory position - ame title I held for over six years. I indicated willingness to manager I would accept other positions if not chosen for supervisor position.<br />I received an e-mail from HR "not a match". I wrote letter back to HR and hiring manager thanking for the interview and asked if there was something not discussed during interview I could clarify.<br />I re-submitted my resume with job description asking for a re-review.<br />No response from either. Positions are still posted on every web site, National Association, and with recruiters who have contacted me but cannot represent as I already applied.<br />What bothers me most is the fact that I am on UA and the positions are out to recruiters where the company will pay a fee. I could be working while they are chasing candidates through agencies. <br />I am talking staff roles in accounting shared services.<br /><br />PaulaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-13127524733517984782010-09-14T21:53:20.049-04:002010-09-14T21:53:20.049-04:00@ Anon -
Where is the assumption taking place? Al...@ Anon -<br /><br />Where is the assumption taking place? All I see is this guy wondering after all of his hard work if the possibility of discrimination exists. Nothing more, nothing less.Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-87775878478714955892010-09-14T13:44:44.021-04:002010-09-14T13:44:44.021-04:00Mike - I don't think anyone is saying he shoul...Mike - I don't think anyone is saying he shouldn't get an outside opinion. He should try to get feedback from the company itself, but automatically assuming the position of being discriminated against because the staff is all women is only going to harm him. Perhaps, he is just not what they are looking for. Calling the corporate office will not provide much help, even if he doesn't identify himself as an applicant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-37469361786026987712010-09-14T10:57:49.350-04:002010-09-14T10:57:49.350-04:00I don't think anyone here is "automatical...I don't think anyone here is "automatically assuming" that discrimination is going on. Remember, this poster had applied several times and only now perceived the mix of employees. <br /><br />Furthermore, the idea that "oh well, you wouldn't be happy working there anyway" is the biggest copout line I see on blogs like these. Guess what? Oftentimes working a crappy job is better than not having food or a roof over your head. Maybe there are kids or other family members involved. <br /><br />It's not a sense of entitlement that makes one ask (and that's all that's being done here, asking a question!) if there is a reason everyone in the workplace goes to the same church, has a similar shade of skin color or is of the same gender. Nor is it a sense of entitlement that causes one to become frustrated with not being able to be a productive member of society. <br /><br />So maybe there is a problem with the poster or maybe there is a problem with the company. How in the heck does anyone expect him to find out other than to seek an outside perspective?Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-39623762756706735682010-09-13T18:47:53.938-04:002010-09-13T18:47:53.938-04:00What exactly is the intention behind going to the ...What exactly is the intention behind going to the corporate office? Perhaps the hiring manager foresees a potential "problem child" / complainer/ that entitlement mentality. this person doesn't even work for the company is already throwing their weight around? His/her energy is better spent moving on to something else.Amewsing Mews and Viewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17683958901268995293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-65862503225379941692010-09-13T17:04:08.938-04:002010-09-13T17:04:08.938-04:00I have no idea how this corporation is run, but I ...I have no idea how this corporation is run, but I know some companies with high turnover almost always have ads running.<br /><br />Also, sometimes with larger organizations the intend to hire and then for whatever reason (I've seen it as simple as lack of organization) it's put off for a while.<br /><br />There could be a myriad of reasons why they keep running ads.Jamienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-16528580248612252282010-09-13T16:58:20.974-04:002010-09-13T16:58:20.974-04:00While I've read through AAM and the others'...While I've read through AAM and the others' responses, I'm still curious as to why they keep posting an open position. It almost sounds as if there's an issue with the store rather than just the applicant. Have there been problems with hired employees in answer to this ad? Are they looking for the most superb candidate that just doesn't exist? Or are they just posting a position to be a resume collector?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-22583070627278454982010-09-13T15:46:24.761-04:002010-09-13T15:46:24.761-04:00I have to admit, I wonder about people who automat...I have to admit, I wonder about people who automatically assume they're being discriminated against for whatever criteria. <br /><br />My first thought is that the question-writer should perhaps evaluate the way he's approaching this application, and make sure he's not giving off a vibe that could could be the real source of the problem. <br /><br />Additionally, if the vast majority of existing employees feels like something that might not "fit" you for whatever reason, it could be time to think about whether or not you'd be happy (or happy enough) working there. Sometimes, hiring managers recognize that a person is not a good fit for the team they have, and will make decisions based on that.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01298873705411249664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-7021808430599059932010-09-13T15:46:15.532-04:002010-09-13T15:46:15.532-04:00I worked at a college, and a (casual) friend was a...I worked at a college, and a (casual) friend was always applying for every position that came open. And complaining that she never ever even got one interview and she speculated that you had to know someone there to get a job. At one point I was on a hiring committee for a position she was again applying for. When I saw her cover letter and resume (very badly done) I could see why she wasn't getting considered for any of the jobs she applied for. And the icing on the cake - she had ME listed as a business reference! She had never asked me if she could use me as a reference. And I had never worked with her so would not really be in a position to give her a reference anyway.Deedeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-32161689303131110152010-09-13T15:35:10.304-04:002010-09-13T15:35:10.304-04:00Seriously? I'd be looking within and not look...Seriously? I'd be looking within and not looking to point fingers.Wilton Businessmannoreply@blogger.com