tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post6768894754415206312..comments2023-09-29T06:09:21.089-04:00Comments on Ask a Manager: job rejections and vitriolAsk a Managerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05281942480230532899noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-7133458923965583852007-09-19T18:24:00.000-04:002007-09-19T18:24:00.000-04:00Beth, I agree with you when you're talking about i...Beth, I agree with you when you're talking about internal applicants. They should be handled with real delicacy, since there are so many more issues at play when an applicant is a current employee.Ask a Managerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05281942480230532899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-1970832162656426352007-09-19T18:21:00.000-04:002007-09-19T18:21:00.000-04:00Interesting thread. At my place of employment, mo...Interesting thread. At my place of employment, most internal applicants get only e-mail letters of rejection. (Not sure about external applicants). In my opinion, if you've spent that face-to-face time interviewing for a job, the least the hiring manager can do is give you a call or ask you to stop by their office to deliver the news. E-mail just seems so very impersonal and a little passive. Seems pretty tacky to me! What would Ann Landers say?!? :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-72906868104514239362007-07-10T13:49:00.000-04:002007-07-10T13:49:00.000-04:00I agree with the career encourager regarding how a...I agree with the career encourager regarding how a candidate handles rejection is a good predictor of future performance. <BR/><BR/>HOWEVER, I think the dirty little secret that many HR managers and Hiring managers don't know is how poorly some recruiters treat applicants during this process. <BR/><BR/>In the past year,I have been stood up twice by two recruiters from the same company - a Fortune 500 company. They both contacted me for phone interviews, set the appointment, and never called. Ever. I emailed, left a voice message - no response, no rescheduling. <BR/><BR/>Some of the frustration you may be hearing from candidates may be a result of the overall recruiting process where applicants are viewed as faceless individuals rather than potential employees.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-59130949954460012742007-06-29T09:44:00.000-04:002007-06-29T09:44:00.000-04:00When I'm looking for a new job, I greatly apprecia...When I'm looking for a new job, I greatly appreciate it when I hear back from company, even if they're going to go with someone else! It's incredibly helpful. I cannot even imagine responding to an email letting me know that I'm no longer being considered with anything but "Thank you for your time and good luck in your search."Elisha Renehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14106437764228307635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-54696747596046110822007-06-28T23:52:00.000-04:002007-06-28T23:52:00.000-04:00Everything you say is SO TRUE. I know it is disap...Everything you say is SO TRUE. I know it is disappointing to a candidate to not get the offer, but how they handle that moment of rejection is a test of how they will handle their entire career.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-84501620834948993422007-06-27T11:08:00.000-04:002007-06-27T11:08:00.000-04:00Yes, you definitely made the right decision on can...Yes, you definitely made the right decision on candidate number 1.<BR/><BR/>A recruiter once shared a cover letter with me that said, "I'm only interested in serious offers. If you are interviewing more than 3 people for the position, I'm NOT INTERESTED."<BR/><BR/>Umm, thanks for letting us know. That way we don't waste our time with you.Evil HR Ladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14506069540151526951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-8978999631591397652007-06-26T19:57:00.000-04:002007-06-26T19:57:00.000-04:00I am so impressed that you send a note. It costs n...I am so impressed that you send a note. It costs nothing to do by email and it relieves anxiety on the job-hunter's part.<BR/><BR/>I have been looking for a job off and on for the past 18 months. One company interviewed me by phone, then insisted I fly to their HQ immediately for further interviews, even though I had told them I had an obligation (a temp job) for the next two weeks that I had made before I ever spoke to them. <BR/><BR/>After my interview, I never heard another word from them again. I don't expect feedback on why they don't want me -- there are so many factors that go into it, but an email telling me that they are not interested would be nice just so I don't wait in hopeful anticipation for the next several days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-70306599941170824032007-06-26T09:56:00.000-04:002007-06-26T09:56:00.000-04:00Wally, I'll agree with you to a point. A lot of k...Wally, I'll agree with you to a point. A lot of kids are like those you've discussed, and feel a real sense of entitlement every time they apply for a job. In their mind, the working world revolves around their wants and needs.<BR/><BR/>However, I don't think the candidate from example #1, with 6 years experience, can be lumped in the same boat. I'd be more inclined to believe this is a phenomenon across all generations, even if we tend to see it more often from those who are newest to the working world.Brucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06531049049972484078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-38442568056162463322007-06-25T13:10:00.000-04:002007-06-25T13:10:00.000-04:00Very illustrative post and nice points by Wally to...Very illustrative post and nice points by Wally too.<BR/><BR/>When I am talking to a bunch of kids in this bracket about career management and job-hunting, I ask a rhetorical question: "Who is this process all about?"<BR/><BR/>It is extraordinary just how many different answers I get to that question, and even more extraordinary how many of those answers are myopic, self-centred twaddle.<BR/><BR/>I stick up a clean and clear slide to answer my rhetorical question; it consists of two words and one piece of punctuation:<BR/><BR/>NOT YOU!<BR/><BR/>When I put this up, about half the class immediately nod their heads and the other half start nodding as I go into my riff about the selection process being <I>entirely</I> about the employer - their needs, their worries, their ulcers and migraines and phobias ...<BR/><BR/>And yet, in every selection process I have run at this level, I get the sense that 50% of the kids really think it IS in some way about them. Plus a noteworthy handful who talk or follow up in the tones you have so eloquently described.<BR/><BR/>Sheesh!Rowan Manahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14419782365041965920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-62718395850416266832007-06-25T10:06:00.000-04:002007-06-25T10:06:00.000-04:00Nice post. Here's something that could be a cause ...Nice post. Here's something that could be a cause for some of what you're experiencing. As I wrote in my blog entry "Addicted to Praise" we have a lot of young people coming into the workplace who have been told over and over and over again that "they can do anything they want" and "they're special." With parents who don't reprimand and soccer leagues that don't keep score and grade inflation (one public high school whose graduation I attended pronounced two thirds of the class "honors graduates")the kids haven't had to deal with much criticism, loss or failure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com