tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post6532939984063675615..comments2023-09-29T06:09:21.089-04:00Comments on Ask a Manager: how to announce an employee is leavingAsk a Managerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05281942480230532899noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-6934822963793948062010-08-14T16:52:19.180-04:002010-08-14T16:52:19.180-04:00Standard at the large New England law firm where I...Standard at the large New England law firm where I worked (pre-massive layoff) was an e-mail form letter. They used the rather chilly subject line *SEPARATION NOTICE*, then person's name & effective date. Typically sent on their last day at the firm. No warm fuzzies there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-42639442262366213602010-07-20T09:17:48.361-04:002010-07-20T09:17:48.361-04:00In my company, till a few months back, it used to ...In my company, till a few months back, it used to be a tradition for people leaving to send a thank you mail on their last day announcing their departure and thanking the people they wanted to thank.<br /><br />However, the last few months have seen a huge number of people leaving (due to various reasons such as poor pay, bad policies, inept top management). Instead of trying to focus on the factors behind why people are leaving, the company decides to block mass mailing from the emails of people on their last day. <br /><br />I think that such a behavior is highly inappropriate from their end, and has only heightened the dissatisfaction of the employees.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-48969154278614496852010-07-14T12:43:29.398-04:002010-07-14T12:43:29.398-04:00Kay, I love "Please treat them as you would a...Kay, I love "Please treat them as you would any other customer," because it makes one wonder not only how the company treats customers, but also whether the former employee deserves such treatment...Rebeccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00718112236359369771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-50454379266122109922010-07-13T15:25:45.360-04:002010-07-13T15:25:45.360-04:00@Anonymous at 11:32...
I don't think asking yo...@Anonymous at 11:32...<br />I don't think asking your target market for feedback is insecure at all. It's the best way to get a feel for what people really want. Let them tell you! Companies do this all the time in the form of focus groups. <br /><br />Back on to the topic at hand- how a departure announcement is handled at my company is completely dependent on the responsible manager. Sometimes an announcement goes out as soon as the employee gives their notice, sometimes it goes out on their last day, sometimes it never goes out all. Some employees get cake to send them off, others barely get a nod in their direction. Very inconsistent. <br /><br />But, every time someone gets promoted, we get an announcement about that. A few weeks ago, I came in to 15 different promotion announcements. This arrived the day after my department was told we were not allowed to hire any more people or reorganize the department (even though it needs it desperately). Which means I get to keep doing the work of several people and I have no hope for a promotion (or title change to more accurately reflect my duties) any time soon.Pipernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-70857628803450202142010-07-13T06:29:47.544-04:002010-07-13T06:29:47.544-04:00We also have the issue that someone resigned from ...We also have the issue that someone resigned from being manager (she could stay on with no loss of salary) but nothing was announced to anyone. It was truly bizarre. She told a few people she was close to but there was no announcement from the director. It was very, very awkward. People would go to her and she eventually had to tell people herself. This happened in February and just yesterday someone came to talk to me who didn't know. An announcement would have been welcome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-13101348739753744692010-07-12T23:02:50.101-04:002010-07-12T23:02:50.101-04:00A sales company I worked for would send out mass e...A sales company I worked for would send out mass emails saying only, "As of today [so-and-so] is no longer employed by [company]. Please treat them as you would any other customer." It always startled us and created a lot of worry about our own job security. It didn't matter whether they were fired, retired, left voluntarily. And it always left you feeling that once you left the company you were less than a person.Kayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06567430043227254324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-67601723888942642112010-07-12T21:32:59.257-04:002010-07-12T21:32:59.257-04:00I hate when customers escalate to me to find out w...I hate when customers escalate to me to find out why their request is taking so long and I find that the person it was assigned to left us. Managers don't announce the exit and don't see to getting the work reassigned. This usually happens with voluntary exits. Involuntary ones generate more rumors and the news gets out faster. What are they thinking - that maybe if they're very quiet no one will notice?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-92151453599421591752010-07-12T13:17:11.957-04:002010-07-12T13:17:11.957-04:00I love the idea of posts regarding most-searched t...I love the idea of posts regarding most-searched topics.<br /><br />Your blog has been so helpful and interesting to me--I'm so grateful I found it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-85687626804943806262010-07-12T12:03:41.990-04:002010-07-12T12:03:41.990-04:00My place of employment refuses to announce when so...My place of employment refuses to announce when someone leaves, and we have huge retention issues. It drives me up the wall.Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-88295692588572716172010-07-12T11:38:19.618-04:002010-07-12T11:38:19.618-04:00Ha, I like to get feedback when I can't tell i...Ha, I like to get feedback when I can't tell if an idea would be of interest or not. I think that's a good thing!Ask a Managerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05281942480230532899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-32203668519619619112010-07-12T11:36:30.826-04:002010-07-12T11:36:30.826-04:00Personally, I like Henning's template -- even ...Personally, I like Henning's template -- even in cases where wombats are not involved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-45207450057336591282010-07-12T11:32:02.453-04:002010-07-12T11:32:02.453-04:00This is feedback; feel free not to allow it on the...This is feedback; feel free not to allow it on the blog.<br /><br />Your questions at the end of this post sounded very insecure. As I'm normally impressed with your confidence and directness, I was surprised you would ask these questions of your readers and potential customers. It's your blog, do what you want.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-40812009704354891042010-07-12T10:14:51.817-04:002010-07-12T10:14:51.817-04:00absolutely--I would love to see posts on the most ...absolutely--I would love to see posts on the most searched for topics. thanks!cherylbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09373680724564710871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-58702973642367053692010-07-12T10:08:20.621-04:002010-07-12T10:08:20.621-04:00i would completely enjoy a week recap of the most ...i would completely enjoy a week recap of the most searched for items around here.~Kristinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18206998657385911226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-10736896344766094802010-07-12T09:54:52.154-04:002010-07-12T09:54:52.154-04:00We had so many layoffs at my company (between layo...We had so many layoffs at my company (between layoffs and the sale of a division or two, it went from 120,000 employees when I started to 60,000 eight years later) that they stopped announcing departures. People - entire staff groups - would disappear. <br /><br />PS I worked for another company - RYDER - that wouldn't announce promotions. Because, as the director told me when I asked why on earth not, they didn't want to make the rest of us "jealous." Funny. My group had >100% turnover (people quitting, not being fired or laid off) in the year and a day that I was there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-40491169870429189652010-07-12T09:13:41.662-04:002010-07-12T09:13:41.662-04:00You can see what people search to find specific bl...You can see what people search to find specific blogs? <br /><br />Bring on the top searches. Maybe we can see a trend in today's workplace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-53606053895198012002010-07-12T08:33:45.909-04:002010-07-12T08:33:45.909-04:00I think what you're seeing is people hoping fo...I think what you're seeing is people hoping for a template that they can use to make it less awkward for themselves. Just lazy people. :)<br /><br />But, yes, it can be straightforward. The ones we usually get are very simple, pretty much exactly as you've written. Very occasionally we'll get one that has some humor injected, or one directly from the person that's leaving.<br /><br />There are always rumors when an explicit reason isn't stated, of course, but again, that's mostly projection, people worried when they see others leaving that their own job might be in jeopardy. Best advice there is to talk to your manager, that person might have some more insight which, while it can't be shared in a broadcast email, can be discussed in a more private setting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-20260377252133379202010-07-12T08:25:08.574-04:002010-07-12T08:25:08.574-04:00I don't know why this shouldn't be straigh...I don't know why this shouldn't be straightforward. I was laid off from a small company a couple years ago, and basically the president didn't want to "make a big deal" out of the fact that he was laying off 30% of the company! So he told my coworkers (in a meeting where I was present) that I had decided to leave and start my own company. I had to explain later in private to every congratulatory coworker what had really happened. Awkward!Sarah Fowlerhttp://www.sarahfowler.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-28198119901444944212010-07-12T06:15:44.117-04:002010-07-12T06:15:44.117-04:00Search term week should be fun. Bring it on!Search term week should be fun. Bring it on!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-75472252622724484762010-07-12T06:12:43.777-04:002010-07-12T06:12:43.777-04:00If Julie is actually leaving on her own volition, ...If Julie is actually leaving on her own volition, wouldn't it be more natural to let her announce it herself? That's how it's done around here, in the mold of:<br /><br /><i>"Hello all. I've discovered some crazy people who're willing to pay me to photograph wombats all day, which (as some of you will know) has always been my life's true ambition. As this company, its other qualities untold, is completely devoid of wombats, Bob was essentially powerless to convince me to stay, so I'll be leaving by the end of this month. It has been cool working with you all, and there will be cake in celebration in the lunch room Wednesday at 15."</i><br /><br />Oh, and +1 on search term week!Henning Makholmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16299831550580392748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-25777179557365221992010-07-12T04:41:44.698-04:002010-07-12T04:41:44.698-04:00The place where I work, when they get rid of someo...The place where I work, when they get rid of someone, they always send out a mass e-mail stating that they no longer work here and wish them well on their future endeavors. Then they will tell us who to contact.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-6571092207868659392010-07-12T03:54:21.241-04:002010-07-12T03:54:21.241-04:00Do you have any really bizarre search terms come u...Do you have any really bizarre search terms come up? I once had a relationship blog and my number 6 most common search was "new shooz"(!?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-48863689078416564822010-07-12T01:35:05.897-04:002010-07-12T01:35:05.897-04:00I've seen this to be a problem when an employe...I've seen this to be a problem when an employee has been fired for what is rumoured to be a workplace violation (rather than poor performance). In the case I am thinking of, management did not disclose the reason the employee left, citing employee confidentiality. This can be pretty bad for morale, because if people know the employee is very good, they wonder about whether the firing was capricious.<br /><br />I think in this situation, not giving a specific reason is a mistake. For one thing, wild inaccurate rumours fly that are potentially even worse for the employee. For another, I think it misses the opportunity to prove seriousness about upholding workplace policies.<br /><br />For a truly random example, say an employee was terminated because they persistently brought and showed pornography in the workplace. I don't see the problem with saying "X was terminated due to violation of the workplace sexual harassment policy". One doesn't need to go into the details, but I think one can benefit from showing that "we take these policies seriously and people will be terminated for violating them". <br /><br />Conversely, if an employee is terminated "without prejudice", if you like, I don't see anything wrong with saying "Y is leaving because his position is eliminated due to restructuring of the group."clobberednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-42318555635253630122010-07-12T01:11:26.341-04:002010-07-12T01:11:26.341-04:00I saw this phenomenon at a company that had a rete...I saw this phenomenon at a company that had a retention problem.... and every time they didn't announce a departure, people got a little more creeped out, some to the point of finding a new job. It was a vicious cycle.nuqotwnoreply@blogger.com