tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post5888034412580987943..comments2023-09-29T06:09:21.089-04:00Comments on Ask a Manager: career counselor is advising me to lieAsk a Managerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05281942480230532899noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-13264369659066563952009-09-04T15:05:54.052-04:002009-09-04T15:05:54.052-04:00I did. I refer to all unknown people as "she,...I did. I refer to all unknown people as "she," just because I'm a she and it's easier.Ask a Managerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05281942480230532899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-81552834751842086202009-09-04T14:39:19.987-04:002009-09-04T14:39:19.987-04:00Anonymous (3:23 PM) - who said the career counselo...Anonymous (3:23 PM) - who said the career counselor was female?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-78129738703403685822009-09-02T13:42:49.289-04:002009-09-02T13:42:49.289-04:00(Totally Unique Anonymous here...)
I'm in the...(Totally Unique Anonymous here...)<br /><br />I'm in the same position as the OP.<br /><br />I have consulted with my former supervisor, senior manager, and primary customer for that position, and they are all willing to give me a positive reference, in spite of the circumstances under which I left the company.<br /><br />Is there a good way to find out what the HR department will say?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-42746860199284987822009-09-02T10:51:18.958-04:002009-09-02T10:51:18.958-04:00Charles--
There are at least two sides to every f...Charles--<br /><br />There are at least two sides to every firing story. Usually 4 or 5 sides. In a situation where gross misconduct occurs the company won't negotiate. In a situation where the employee is terminated for non-willful non-performance it can just as well be the manager's fault as it was the employee's fault.<br /><br />If the job was misrepresented, or the work changed the company can think, "this person isn't performing up to snuff" while the person is saying, "hey I did the job I was hired for just great. that job doesn't exist any more. My real job was eliminated!"<br /><br />And it is important that you know exactly what your former boss/company is going to say about you before you go job hunting.Suzanne Lucashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07129772885673695447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-63032174168518651362009-09-02T10:04:12.695-04:002009-09-02T10:04:12.695-04:00Evil HR Lady;
How is your solution - "negoti...Evil HR Lady;<br /><br />How is your solution - "negotiating a term reason" different from lying?<br /><br />Is it simply because you won't be "found out"? <br /><br />Or is it because <i>two</i> parties have now agreed to tell the same lie?Charleshttp://home.earthlink.net/~nooriginalthought/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-54313992938750752009-09-02T04:38:13.009-04:002009-09-02T04:38:13.009-04:00Bad advice from career counselor.
However--whil...Bad advice from career counselor. <br /><br />However--while it's a little late for this person--if you ever get fired, negotiate a term reason. Often, to get you to shut up and go away, they'll list your official term reason as something other than the real reason.<br /><br />It's worth a shot to make job hunting easier.<br /><br />And you can negotiate a voluntary termination reason with an agreement that the company won't challenge unemployment.Suzanne Lucashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07129772885673695447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-76172852944645551732009-09-02T01:05:21.678-04:002009-09-02T01:05:21.678-04:00BAD Career Counselor, worst advice ever!BAD Career Counselor, worst advice ever!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-1633652478198582042009-09-01T15:23:34.328-04:002009-09-01T15:23:34.328-04:00Her qualifications are probably "extensive em...Her qualifications are probably "extensive employment-seeking experience."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-54870711294887798232009-09-01T13:59:27.043-04:002009-09-01T13:59:27.043-04:00I agree.
And I continue to be frustrated that the...I agree.<br /><br />And I continue to be frustrated that there are people out there giving such unbelievably bad advice to job seekers who need help, not crap like this.<br /><br />What exactly are this person's qualifications to be a "career counselor" anyway?Kerry Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17590443839479686201noreply@blogger.com