tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post1113203712004675886..comments2023-09-29T06:09:21.089-04:00Comments on Ask a Manager: how can I get justice with my boss' boss?Ask a Managerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05281942480230532899noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-3955316789391971072009-09-13T19:17:27.389-04:002009-09-13T19:17:27.389-04:00"However, this does seem like a red flag to m..."However, this does seem like a red flag to me since it was so carelessly done. It also seemed weird that he prefaced his speech with, "I don't really have to apologize, but I want to".<br /><br />jmho Now you're acting like a baby. You received a 1-1 apology + a public apology. YOU need to get past this because there's nothing else that could or should be done.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-52299642649228912562009-09-13T16:30:24.448-04:002009-09-13T16:30:24.448-04:00Hey AAM and everyone on the comment board. I am th...Hey AAM and everyone on the comment board. I am the contributor of this question and I wanted to thank everyone for their contribution. My department director did publicly apologize to everyone in our weekly meeting and said I didn't really do anything wrong and that he screwed up by forwarding that email before reading it. I appreciated this very much. However, this does seem like a red flag to me since it was so carelessly done. It also seemed weird that he prefaced his speech with, "I don't really have to apologize, but I want to".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-20130377024981391652009-09-13T11:27:57.492-04:002009-09-13T11:27:57.492-04:00"If it becomes a pattern, address the pattern...<i>"If it becomes a pattern, address the pattern. But otherwise? This is your boss' boss. He made a mistake. Let it go."</i><br /><br />That last sentence is the advice I would follow. <br /><br />While, I agree that some of the other suggestions here in the comments would be ideal - <i>the boss should call a meeting to clarify, there should be an apology email sent out, etc.</i> <b>These, however, are not in the OP's power to do.</b><br /><br />Other than "just letting go of it," anything else the OP tries to do will damage more than a reputation.<br /><br />Even if sending out an email from the OP saying that the mistake wasn't really his/hers alone, the email will come across as complaining. Has no one is that dept. ever made a mistake? Has the OP never made a mistake?<br /><br />If the OP, or anyone for that matter, really has a reputation that can be easily "damaged" by ONE email; then, maybe, it wasn't a very solid reputation in the first place. A solid reputation will usually survive intact, even if the mistake is valid.<br /><br />It is true that the squeaky wheel gets the grease; But, it is even more true that the clunking cog gets replaced.Charleshttp://home.earthlink.net/~nooriginalthought/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-87459551043245667332009-09-12T20:21:52.126-04:002009-09-12T20:21:52.126-04:00I wouldn't send the email either. I might ask...I wouldn't send the email either. I might ask the responsible party to issue a retraction/explanation, but doing on your own looks like you are correcting a supervisor two levels above you. Never good even if you are right. No muttering about the injustice with your coworkers either. Just suck it up and move on.<br /><br />Which is advice I need to take myself given an incident last week.The Engineernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-38662430770000963122009-09-12T18:01:52.808-04:002009-09-12T18:01:52.808-04:00Is it too much to ask that the person who sent thi...Is it too much to ask that the person who sent this email send a retraction to the staff who got the mass email? Not an apology (that would be asking a bit much), but a clarification?R.B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05865549528010761178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-62557406519530514202009-09-12T11:44:21.505-04:002009-09-12T11:44:21.505-04:00Maybe the account executive didn't listen to t...Maybe the account executive didn't listen to the poster's side of the story because, as they said, their department gets these complaints often. Best thing the poster can do in the future is document how he/she handles these complaints, since this seems to be an ongoing problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-77639847916320514702009-09-12T11:19:32.281-04:002009-09-12T11:19:32.281-04:00In the spirit of everyone makes mistakes, I don...In the spirit of everyone makes mistakes, I don't agree with the advice given.<br /> <br />This mistake was far reaching and called the OP's reputation/performance into question. Peers that relied on the OP may think twice. The content of this fast forwarded email will linger in the back of people's minds -right or wrong.<br /><br />Although a 1-1 apology is good form, it's the minimum and resolves nothing with the other recipients. <br /><br />Prediction: This employer will lose the OP if they don't address the content of the hastily sent email with the group. It's easy enough to do > call a policy review staff meeting, clarify the reason behind the email and address both the OP's and performance issue at one time. This may take all of 5-15 minutes. <br /><br />If not addressed with the group the bosses just set this employee up to fail. And it may be time for the OP to look for another job where the management team does more than the minimum. <br />Just sayin...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-26852217721529896362009-09-12T11:12:07.873-04:002009-09-12T11:12:07.873-04:00I had a situation at one job where I was singled o...I had a situation at one job where I was singled out in front of everyone in my department for making a mistake that I hadn't even made. It was another co-worker who made the mistake. This was clear in the context and I could have pointed it out right then and there. I did not and I'm glad of it because, in that situation at least, doing so would not have helped anyone other than to embarrass the other co-workers.<br /><br />Obviously, the situation described in this post is different. But I'd recommend against writing an email, such as "Ask A Manager" suggested. Emails, no matter how carefully written, can often sound wrong, and in this situation might do more harm than good.Gabriel Conroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17566193099628849226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558939360732260529.post-77502254042306760902009-09-11T23:29:16.733-04:002009-09-11T23:29:16.733-04:00Count to 10 and walk away. Two people acted in has...Count to 10 and walk away. Two people acted in haste and it turned out badly. You want to do the same. In the grand scheme this really doesn't matter. It's hard to let go but in this situation you really need to move on.Rachel - former HR bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13504902980684871964noreply@blogger.com